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Speaker 3: Who sings that? How dare you? How dare you say who sings that? No, who's, uh... Angus Young. No, Angus Young is the guitarist, right? Why he's all loud. Goddamnit, my brother used to beat the shit out of me that music That's right and then before him Bond Scott and Bond Scott died of a drug overdose. Oh, man. Is that how he died? Just went too hard

Speaker 4: That's a thing. It's like it's that moment where you're like do we want to go any harder?

Speaker 3: I saw a video of Angus on stage the other night like recently. He's like 70 years old from a CDC going ham Yeah, old fucking dude white hair just dancing see if you find that video just dancing around on stage Carl is still up. He's like dad. You didn't put me down yet It takes three minutes to calm him you got a book you got a whole system

Speaker 1: Three or four minutes and then by it for sure seven or eight. He's asleep. We get him a weighted

Speaker 4: Do they have a weighted blanket or not for him? I

Speaker 1: Don't think they do that for dogs

Speaker 3: Does that really work with people I feel like there's other ways there's that one video that like really like

Speaker 4: kind of Kind of weak kid who gets trapped under one or whatever you see at that birthday party. How big is the blanket? I mean, it's like I guess it's like 80 pound test or whatever. I don't know having a threat like a Marlin

Speaker 5: Marlin

Speaker 4: He's like trying to text for help or whatever. Oh, it's just a joke Really trapped yeah, it looked like a kid. He was very much trapped under there, man some div he was very I Don't say malnourished or under you know he just did he didn't like to eat or whatever one of those kids only to nuggets or

Speaker 3: Whatever oh well nuggets are better than just chips these nuggets are some kind of protein Yeah, I mean some kind of what do you think Bobby Kennedy's gonna do when he gets into the white art? Okay, they're gonna get rid of nuggets I see here's my take on like I was just reading this whole thing about Chick-fil-a and they were saying this is the most dangerous food in America The number one burger Chick-fil-a is like the number one fast-food sandwich chicken sandwich And there's a fucking thousand ingredients, and it's not yeah Yeah, just don't eat it every day stupid. Yeah, I eat them. I'm healthy I'm real healthy. You just don't eat them every fucking day. You enjoy them. Yeah, you don't it's not your primary diet Yeah

Speaker 4: If you're going over there every day or whatever Leaving your kids at home to go get one or something if you're lying didn't yeah, you're just fiending for chick-fil-a all day Well, they're so good, and they come in that little bag It almost has that they come in the unmarked bag, you know, this is a paid advertisement for better help

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 3: Every now and again, a little Chick-fil-A is not gonna hurt nothing.

Speaker 4: Yeah, treat your lady, treat your friend, treat yourself. Treat yourself. Get off of work, I'm gonna have one today.

Speaker 3: I'm gonna get me a double-double from In-N-Out, fuck it.

Speaker 4: That's a lot though. Double, just get a regular one. Nah, if you're gonna go hard, go all the way hard. See I'm the guy who I would get two singles instead of getting a double you know what I get it in and out

Speaker 3: I get the Flying Dutchman. Oh You know what that is. It's just patties with cheese on it Mmm, and there's no good. It's so good cuz it's fresh Cuz in and out doesn't freeze their meat their meat is always fresh, so when you get those I mean It's just perfect man. There's two burger patties with two slices of cheese, and I pick those greasy bitches up and And I feel great It's like the closest thing you can get to healthy food at a fast-food spot and so you're in there's no bread on them No bread, no bread. No, nothing You pick them up with two fingers like a fucking pig like a sloppy glutton

Speaker 5: I just resigned my Missouri sushi, dude

Speaker 4: It's meat and cheese?

Speaker 5: Just meat and cheese and greasy fingers. That's that Montana sashimi, brother.

Speaker 3: It's so hot you can barely hold on to it. Oh, people do it with the onions on it, too? Yeah, I've had that. Oh, I haven't seen all this. The onions is good, but my way is no onions.

Speaker 4: I have a block on my computer. I don't think I can look at some of this stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah, if I put the Flying Dutchman, dude, it's going to bring up...

Speaker 3: My buddy Cody gets them with onions inside of them, So you stay slice up the onions put it inside of them grilled onions inside. Mm-hmm. That's nice

Speaker 4: I love onions. I think onions are a underrated

Speaker 3: Food do you think onions have any nutrition in them at all? I love onions, too Yeah, I vote whenever I eat onions. I'm like, what am I doing here? This isn't there's nothing here, right?

Speaker 4: But there's something about them. It's like oh, yeah, but you want some huh?

Speaker 3: They well, there's a tinge. You know what? I love. Yeah, I love a good tomato and onion salad, you know

Speaker 4: Yeah

Speaker 3: when they give those like beefsteak tomatoes like heirloom tomatoes with slices of onion and some balsamic on that bitch a little bit of Salt. Oh That's nice. Oh, I love that and it's like an old-school New York steakhouse thing, you know, like a burrata style thing That's good, too. If you go burrata, you're great. Oh burrata and the tomatoes you can't go wrong But the onions and tomatoes tomato and onion salad was like a steakhouse thing. I never really saw it anywhere else But like tomato and onion salad was like a big thing in like, New York steakhouses. Yeah, baby. That sounds good

Speaker 4: Hmm, I like having I like when you get there's a Vidalia onion you ever seen that one? No, that's a beautiful onion

Speaker 3: Bring one up if you don't mind Jamie, but well, let's guess though cuz I genuinely have no idea Okay, do you think there's any nutritional content in onions?

Speaker 4: Let me think about it, let me think about it while I'm eating one. I don't know.

Speaker 3: There might be some sneaky shit that only Andrew Huberman can tell you about, you know? Some weird ingredient.

Speaker 4: Like some back-end, like a back-end magnesium or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some weird... Yeah, like some fucking... Some weird shit.

Speaker 3: Like some... You mean there's some... That's a Vidalia onion? Yeah. Okay, so I think I've seen them before. didn't know they had a different name.

Speaker 6: Those are good.

Speaker 3: There is a lot of nutritional value. I have it on the next tab. Is there? But so- Okay, that's what I want to know. Impressive health benefits of onions. Oh, okay. Now I feel better for liking onions. Tell me what can they do for you? Vitamin C. Mm. Easy, we should have known it. Let's see. Look at all that. There's a little sugar? Interesting. 4.7 grams of sugar in an onion. Imagine how nasty it would take without that sugar. How nasty would onions taste if they taste that good with that much sugar? Just say just God put a touch in there. He knew it has anybody ever had onion sliced onions with sugar all over it

Speaker 4: Mmm, I don't know cuz you would think it would bring the sugar out even more right you know what I had the other day

Speaker 3: That was really good watermelon with salt on it

Speaker 4: You ever have that no I haven't had that dude. It's like it's you the love it

Speaker 3: Are you what the fuck have you done to watermelon? Oh, I could see that. I love it

Speaker 4: Mexican people like to put Crazy shit on fruit. Chili mango.

Speaker 3: Chili mango, man. That's a big one in Mexico.

Speaker 4: You like this fruit and they're like,

Speaker 3: now you like it or what, motherfucker?

Speaker 4: That's spicy fruit? Yeah, they get crazy, dude.

Speaker 3: But chili mango works uniquely. Like, out of all spicy fruits, that's the one that caught on so much it made it to potato chips. Chili mango? Yeah, chili mango's in everything. I haven't had that. Oh, dude, I drink chili mango element. You know what element is? Like the hydration mix? Uh-uh. I like hydration though. That's a Rob Wolfe's company, right? I believe so dude. Why have people why is there so much?

Speaker 4: Hydration now and also dude. Thank you I just want to say thank you to Mexican people just for doing everything that they do dude I feel like every week we should have a round of applause for Mexican people. I feel like in America

Speaker 3: Well, it's weird to want to keep him out. You know, they have some of the best food That's the nicest people They are there are some of the hardest working people like one of the organ donors to a lot of them Well, that's awesome. One of the dumbest like Stereotypes ever was like the lazy Mexican. Like what are you talking about? Everyone I've ever met has like fucking three jobs

Speaker 5: Working 12 hours a day. Like what the fuck are you talking about? I knew a Mexican guy

Speaker 4: He had to leave work to go to his job

Speaker 3: All the it never ends dude, you know Mexicans used to have a feud with Puerto Ricans back in the day with boxing In boxing there was always like this feud between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans would always say that the Puerto Ricans didn't work hard enough Like the discipline like some of the Puerto Rican guys were maybe more talented But the Mexican guys were known for discipline like some of the great Mexican boxers like Julio Cesar Chavez One of the things about him was his volume was insane Yeah, his knowledge of boxing was insane But his volume was insane and the only way you could have volume like that is if you have supreme conditioning And what does volume mean volume volume of punching Wow you ever watch Julio Cesar Chavez one of the greatest of all time He passed the race of all time. No. No, he's still alive. Oh good, and his son is boxing now His his son is a really good boxer Not at the level that his dad was but Julio Cesar Chavez senior was one of the all-time greats but he would just Overwhelm people with volume and just break them down pull up a Julio Cesar Chavez highlight because when he was in his prime He one of the greatest fights of all time was him versus Meldrick Taylor And he not Meldrick Meldrick Taylor who's an Olympic gold medalist phenomenal boxer And he knocked out Meldrick Taylor with like 10 seconds to go in the final round Hmm He made his dude cry I look his hair should make me cry who's that again? That's is that the dude from the red clay strays. That's his brother What's money from him It's my cousin the boxer shit. It looks like it looks like fucking machine gun punching This is so I don't know why he made this dude cry But just go get me a highlight because we don't have the time to like just watch him break this dude down Give me just like a Julio Cesar Chavez jr. High. Oh, excuse me Chavez senior highlight. She comes from Silver Spoon Those guys you got one of their jackets on man. You're wearing a red case Yeah, I am. They're great man. Thank God. This is warm. So in the 1990s. He was the fucking man He was the man he was I forget what his record was before he had his first defeat But it's something crazy like 80 or 90 fights before he had his first defeat. Yeah Athletical bro, and just is there a highlight of his knockouts. Oh Just give me a highlight of like him beating the fuck out of people. He was so good, dude Look at this. He about to cook this bro. That was Meldrick Taylor Oh So Meldrick Taylor and him had an epic fight where Meldrick was winning the beginning of the fight the Meldrick was very good And he's over it. No, that's Pernell Whitaker. That was a fight where he Probably shouldn't have won But they gave it to him and a lot of people including myself watch I don't think Pernell Whitaker got robbed Pernell Whitaker was like the slickest of all of the American boxers of his era Wow, but Julio Cesar Chavez just broke Meldrick down later in the fight

Speaker 4: What made him so good? What made him? Well, it's you know, what makes a fighter?

Speaker 3: There's a lot of things but he didn't stand out in terms like he wasn't faster than everybody right or hit harder than everybody He wasn't a one-punch guy here. He's he was a volume puncher So he would put guys away by breaking them down. He would break their will and crush them That was what he would do and he would do with this fucking mean look on his face when he's just at the end of Fights when he had guys broken he would just overwhelm them and swarm them He was one of the most terrifying guys because he kept his pace up 12 rounds. No fucking problem iron chin, but different You know, it's like who else that's the final punch that dropped Meldrick Taylor Wow, and that was one where it was a fucked-up call because Richard Steele knew that Meldrick Taylor was out But there was really only two seconds left in the fight, but he still has to wave it off because the dude can't fight Right, so it's kind of crazy So all these people were mad at Richard Steele because if he didn't do that Meldrick Taylor would have won the decision So he stops the fight with like two seconds to go. How many seconds was it when he called the fight off? I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say two seconds. Might have been five seconds.

Speaker 4: And what would you do in that situation then?

Speaker 3: Well, he's doing the right thing. The referee is there to save the fighter. If he takes one more punch in those two seconds and that one punch kills him, that's him. It's on him.

Speaker 1: 17 when he went down.

Speaker 3: So 17 he goes down. Well, so let's see what happens. So he gives him the count, which is a standing 8 count, and then he looks at him and he asks him a couple questions. Give me some volume. So, look, he's not looking at the clock. He's looking to save this guy, but look at, look at the, what, look at him. Look at him. Wow. He looked him in the eye, he wasn't there, but he's doing the right thing. He's doing the right thing. It's crazy if there's three seconds left,

Speaker 4: But he is doing the right thing because a referee's job is to make sure that they stay alive

Speaker 3: Yes, protect the fighter because a fighter wouldn't make the right choice. You're saying right? That's why that's why a referee has to protect The fighter from a cut like if the cuts too bad the referee has to call it or bring in a doctor to call it There's some times where the referee it's it's a judgment call and sometimes they get it wrong because they're human But it's a crazy job. They have the hardest job in the world So the guys like Herb Dean the guys like Mark Goddard those guys need more praise because it's it's one of the most Difficult jobs in all of combat sports other than being a fighter The second most difficult for sure is being a referee Wow because you got to make these calls You do it like in the middle of chaos in a world title fight where millions of people are watching Oh, and you got to keep this thing together in this very chaotic sport. That would be so tough. Yeah

Speaker 4: I wonder what are the requirements to be a referee like how much you know like to be one of those like Mark Goddard or

Speaker 3: Courses you can take you know I know big John McCarthy was very instrumental in Educating people Herb Dean's very instrumental in doing. This is a lot of these guys Mark Goddard they they'll put together seminars and help guys that are coming up, and there's probably a formal Let's see. It's a final like what is the website that's like best for if someone wants to go and learn how to be a referee

Speaker 4: But you could probably just pull up in Memphis and start blowing the whistle on a bunch of most of them are massive fans

Speaker 3: Of course, most of them train like Mark Goddard trains. I believe Mark Goddard's a black belt in jujitsu I'll have to check that I herb Dean. I know had a few MMA fights

Speaker 4: Oh, so they also have a lot of muscle have experience. Mm-hmm

Speaker 3: You have to set up some you have to know what's going on because sometimes especially like Submissions and things like that like if things get complicated real quick Yeah, like someone not letting go of an inside heel hook and like that's a scary one There's like do you remember who Samar Paul Harris? Oh No way is that his name was to Kenya which means tree trunk. That's like his His nickname who Samar he's Brazilian Samar Pajaro's He was the scariest guy of all time because he was all leg locks and he was built like a tank. He was like five eight 185 pounds just just fucking ball of muscle and he would dive on dudes legs and just rip them apart Oh like a pilot wouldn't let go wouldn't let go of the legs. So guys beat happen He's the only guy ever get kicked out of the UFC winning Because he was holding submissions. They kicked him out. They said you can't do that What do you mean you can't do it? You can't do what? You gotta let go when the referee says stop. Oh, because he's crippling people. Oh. You want to see a highlight that makes you cringe? Pull up Hussamal Paul Jarrez submission highlights. Oh, I don't want to see it. Jake Shields punched him in the face after their fight because he got a hold of a Kimura, Jake tapped, and he still kept cranking on it. He would do that with guys. He just was a pitbull. He wouldn't let go but there's an But on sportsman like aspect do you feel like sure that's on sportsman like at a certain point it seems like it is I said, you know, you're gonna cripple a guy, you know, if you keep twisting on a knee He's gonna have to have surgery, you know, if a person taps that you let it's supposed to be that's it You know and there's the heat of the moment stuff But then there's some people that just do it over and over and over again, and there's you know, folks very monogamy that So what look at he would do man. He would just get a hold of guy look at his knee look And he's still he's tapping and he's that was with John Fitch show that one again So he's tapping so he gets this knee bar. This knee bar is awful. Look how bad he's tapping and he's still cranking still crank Wow, yeah still cranking So it's like he would hold on for an extra second or two Which is more than enough to destroy they kicked him out a second doesn't seem like a long time unless you're caught in a knee That seconds, that's an eternity where your knee is getting exploded and you're tapping and he won't let go. You gotta let go immediately when the person taps. When the referee stops the fight, you gotta let go immediately. Now do you let go when the guy taps or do you let go when the referee taps? Look at this here. The referee was on him, the guy's screaming in agony, he's still cranking.

Speaker 4: Yeah, he might have had a vengeance, he might have had a...

Speaker 3: He was a mean dude, but he grew up very poor on a farm horrible upbringing You know it's like there's a kind of a crazy story to it a lot of pain a lot of pain we grew up in extreme poverty and Like this scar on his chest the scar on his chest like they had a glue a wound that he had as a child like on The farm they glued it together. That's why he's this big scar on his chest just a hard man Yeah, and a scary dude if you got a hold of your legs because he wasn't gonna let go God

Speaker 4: I'm glad I don't know him I mean in some ways you know Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to know him like adversely Damn, dude. Yeah, I saw Shane too. Yeah, what did you say?

Speaker 3: Are you right away you had seen him in how long as soon as you saw shades in

Speaker 4: Shades in the sauna, and you're like you look like a pickled egg We look like those kind of eggs. I give it a little cage or whatever at the gas station

Speaker 3: You know those bucket eggs the ones that are on the bars Pickled they give me one of them pickled eggs. Do you know how fucking hungry you have to be?

Speaker 5: Fucking eggs who knows how long they've been sitting there you're like yeah, give me one of them

Speaker 4: And there's always some trucker over there just bobbing for apples in the tank of them like Blah blah blah. It looks so unsanitary. Bro, and the fart that rips out of your body off of that thing.

Speaker 3: How are you gonna ban Chick-fil-A, but you're not gonna ban that.

Speaker 5: I know.

Speaker 4: Dude, that has to be RFK's arch nemesis right there.

Speaker 5: Imagine if you were living off those eggs, the farts you would have.

Speaker 3: If that's your only food source. Like, let's imagine you're, like, stuck on a boat in the middle of the ocean

Speaker 5: with only bottled eggs your own farts gonna make you jump in the ocean but

Speaker 4: there's a lot of like there's that truckers high that they get from huffing their own gas there's like a syndrome or something that starts from it from people just imagine what that can't be good for you right cage yourself up at a 80 miles an hour with your own farts And just cruising state to state just fucking

Speaker 3: In the combination of things ring dings pork rinds

Speaker 4: Pepsi saying the saying

Speaker 3: Just all of that just compiled at once into you and then listen to conspiracy theorists talk on podcasts all day

Speaker 4: Just deep in fucking the murky waters of Alex

Speaker 3: I've been I've been on social media a little too much lately. Yeah. Yeah I've been reading too many people fighting and arguing about stupid shit to the point where I'm starting to develop theories And I don't I don't want to

Speaker 4: Like what do you well, I saw Alex Jones and he looks really good. Yeah, he's losing all weight

Speaker 3: He looks like he's to go to court for something. No, Sean. Our friend Sean is helping him He's working out with him every day. Yeah, but I noticed it like in a month. I just saw like and I was like Oh my god. Yeah, he's really committed. He's gonna do a documentary on it

Speaker 4: It's got to do a documentary and take take him back my health. He's it's so noticeable. Yeah. Wow. He looks handsome

Speaker 3: But this is a fucking theories. It's not even him. Oh Really? Yeah, there's theories that they replaced him with a different guy

Speaker 4: Yeah, who did though?

Speaker 3: That's always the thing. That's the thing. But here's the thing. I know that's not true, right? I know the guy who's training him. I know him like I'm still in touch with him Yeah, like I text Alex all the time. I know him. He's just losing weight But if you go online, there's a lot of people that believe that this is like a different person Yeah There's a lot of people believe he's been co-opted by the government There's a lot like he has to chime in on every single thing that everybody wants him to otherwise He's been co-opted, and I'm starting to develop these theories where I don't know how much of that conversation is real I certainly think there's a percentage of that conversation is real This is what conversation you mean when people think that people have been co-opted Okay, by the government like that they've become what is that one that they like to use controlled opposition? That's what you want to pretend to be a smart conspiracy theorist you have to say controlled opposition

Speaker 4: Easily bro in two weeks Tom's the girl. We'll be playing this guy. He looks great. That's all it is he looks great

Speaker 3: But he doesn't look like the same person not at all dude cuz he's laid off the booze. He's laid off the booze He's not eating any bullshit

Speaker 4: Really

Speaker 3: Satanic pedophiles all day long. Yeah, sometimes you want to take the edge off. Yeah, I

Speaker 4: I mean he looks totally yeah different now. He looks like um Ray Randy, uh

Speaker 3: Orton now, but imagine if this was no internet Imagine there's no internet, so we don't know even a heartbeat. It wasn't a real guy sure There's no way that's the same guy this guy on the left looks 15 years younger

Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, dude a chubby guy used to do the pool, and I worked at this farm one time He used to do the pool and one year he got on Dexter trim or some illegal fat burner or whatever and he came and did the pool one time when I was there And I didn't even believe it was him and never believed it totally different Yeah, so yeah, if you didn't have stuff like this you would be like that's not the same guy

Speaker 3: So this was just the television days no social media Yeah, I think that they've recasted the guy could something happen to him over the off 100% you would think oh someone replaced Alex Jones

Speaker 4: With a fake Alex Jones, but he would tell you if that happened right he would be like Joe somebody

Speaker 3: They replaced me you'd say they replace me. They're sending somebody who the fuck is gonna do his voice There's only four people alive they could do a good Alex Jones impression Are you are you aware of the? Elon Musk Adrian Dittman controversy

Speaker 5: that he I

Speaker 4: Saw something there's a they said he was a fake person that he made a fake

Speaker 3: What's caught? I think they call them sock puppet accounts, okay, and it's It's generally frowned upon to have a fake account. It seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online. I don't have one, but it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online.

Speaker 4: It takes a lot of time, it seems like.

Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could have a fake account where if you're a public person, like Elon Musk, and you want to say some wild shit, but you don't want to take responsibility for it. You just want to shitpost like everybody else, like an anonymous person.

Speaker 4: Oh, that's true. He can't do that, really. I would say that would be a smart thing to do. Did it, was it really him did they find out?

Speaker 3: But is that, is that unethical? When one person can call themselves, you know, cat turd, you know, that's a legit name for a dude. I don't know anything about that cat, but that guy could just talk about anything he wants to talk about, but if Elon Musk does it, well he has the responsibility of his public image, but maybe he doesn't want that. Right. Like if he, I don't have a problem with either one of them.

Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you just want to shed your skin, you just want to take a layer off and you want to relax at the house, You want to kick your feet up and yell something down the hallway? You shouldn't yell, right?

Speaker 3: And that's what he wants to do. I think you should be allowed to do that. Yes This is one of the problems with making the internet, you know, like taking away the anonymity, but here's my my question Because of that right So if people can just have fake accounts and people should be able to which I think they definitely should be able to do Because of that though then you have to wonder when you see arguments How many of these arguments are real people in their real opinions and how many of these arguments are? It does giant block of accounts that's been purchased by a large organization that is hiring people or using AI to have arguments with people and Incite things right online Wow it's not zero percent people now No, I'm I'm saying like if you have a personal belief in something like no They're not biased because I think that way I'm not saying that you don't believe what you believe and I'm not even saying that you're wrong, I'm saying That if there's any hot-button cultural topic You can fucking guarantee that some of the people talking about it aren't real Either they're not real in that. These are not the real opinions They're being told to say these things or they might not even be a real human. They might be an algorithm or They're a bunch of people that have been hired whenever there's hot-button cultural issues or voting issues or Political issues a lot of those people arguing are not real Yeah and there's a real question as to what the number are like how much of this is like real interaction between people and How much of this is? all of this meddling that's being done like they're changing the way people think about things and Enforcing and arguing like these things all day very persuasively on behalf of some sort of special interest group

Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that sounds very plausible especially these days There's like there's not as much you know it used to be that a lot of media was controlled by a few channels and networks Right I mean that's safe to say would you agree with that?

Speaker 3: It was all controlled by a few channels right it was all I mean you all you had when we were kids You had I remember when cable came out. It was crazy. Really? Yeah, what was before that you had ABC? NBC CBS, that's it. No. Yes, that's it. And then I know chances for Fox Fox was crazy married with children the Simpsons Fox was nuts Fox was this wild network. So that was that was the horse. That was the fourth network Mary children was so good, dude So good. So you have this fourth network and then cable comes along and then satellite and now streaming and the Internet It's like what I don't even think we're aware of how much more content we absorb than people that were You know what that lived like when I was 21. Oh, yeah Playoffs we're talking about playoffs you bet We are get in on the action with DraftKings Sportsbook an official sports betting partner of the NFL Scoring touchdowns is key to winning the playoffs and you can score big by betting on them at DraftKings, the number one place to bet touchdowns. Ready to place your bet? Try betting on something simple like a player to score six. Go to DraftKings Sportsbook app and make your pick. New DraftKings customers can bet five bucks to get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use the code ROGAN. That's code ROGAN for new customers to You get $200 in bonus bets instantly when you bet just five bucks. Only on DraftKings Sportsbook.

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Speaker 4: Well, even if you're just by the airport or whatever sometimes I wish to be like can someone turn all this shit off It's like yeah, you don't even know what's going on anymore in the middle of the night I'll have like songs playing in my head that I heard online tick tocks and shit It's just bad like it's gotten to be too much But I think that there's what I'm saying is if somebody had all that control at one point or if a few networks did there's No way that now that they have less control They're not still trying to find that control and that they're hiring different groups to be Twitter bots or Twitter personalities or yeah

Speaker 3: Yeah, make tick-tock accounts. I'm sick talks about issues 100 people look people have said flat-out that they were offered money, and then they got paid money to make things for political people like make people make people think that they were really excited about voting for someone they would pay them for pro content right so pro whatever that person is so there's a whole business in this where they reach out to popular influencers and they say hey I want you to endorse this person would you do that for X amount of money what did that

Speaker 4: happen with like Megan Thee Stallion or somebody didn't they weren't they hired Recently or some of it, and I'm sure the Republican Party did it too I think that was a Democratic one that they had where they hire performers to come and perform

Speaker 3: Yeah, this was the this was the big controversy. We tried to get to the bottom of it. It's hard to know so the real the accusation was that There was a few artists Lizzo was one of them. Yeah, that was another one Beyonce was the big one right and that they were paid an exorbitant amount of money to go and endorse Kamala Harris at these rallies I don't know if it's true it seems like there might be something to it the day spent so much money dude it's so crazy that the economy is like one of the biggest problems that we think of today like you think of like what do you mean the economy the Economy like if okay the US economy the people with people that want to vote on things. What do they want? They want the economy to be healthier. They want us to have less national debt safety. Yeah, they want less inflation They want safety want low crime if that is the amount of fucking money they went through like you you you spent 1.5 billion dollars and you paid celebrities to it if that's true you paid celebrities You're like, how am I supposed to trust you? Yeah with spending money If you were gonna marry a gal and you just gave her access to your credit card you're like look, baby You know you and me We're in it now. So Here you go. I want you to be happy and she just goes fucking ham. Yes She says hey, I'm only doing the amulets up until we get married. Yeah, because once then then I'm I'm all about a sensible budget I'm all about fiscally being responsible. You couldn't believe that you wouldn't believe it not at all

Speaker 4: You'd be like wait a minute. You've been going crazy with these fucking handbags and jewels and shit He'd be like I'm not marrying you then because yeah, we have too much shit. I can't even see you in the apartment now

Speaker 3: Also, I can't trust you with the credit cards you're a fucking maniac dude my I had his roommate for a while

Speaker 4: It's dude, and he would get all high out in the living room, and he would get These empty boxes cardboard boxes, and he had a couple cats, and he'd get out there, and he'd um And he would have him do Tricks and stuff up the up the box. He'd stack them really high in the living room It's like a 20-foot ceiling and he'd get stoned he'd get upset if I didn't come out and watch

Speaker 3: Meanwhile that guy can vote yeah, that's that's the kind of guys go whoa Megan a stallion She's that who she's voting for well fucking sign me up. He would get pissed if I didn't come out and watch dude

Speaker 4: That's what's crazy

Speaker 3: They spend money to make sure that people think that famous people will vote for I don't think anybody dude

Speaker 4: I don't even believe that there's famous famous this it doesn't even seem like a real thing anymore It's like like the other like I was just texting with on Nikki Glaser did the Whatever it's called in globes Golden Globes, right? Yeah, she hosted the Golden Globes. She killed it. She did a great job, right? She did a great job and she was like just confident and fun and rip just it was awesome. She did a great job So I was just texting saying hey, congrats. That was awesome. And uh And I said were you were you nervous at all? You know a lot of famous people and then she's like no and I was like, you know, I was thinking it doesn't it It doesn't even seem like people are that famous kind of gotten different over the years. Does it seem like that at all? I think as some of the most popular people aren't it used to just be like they were movie stars, you know but now it seems like it's just changed like you could have just as much infatuation for somebody that you saw that made an Entertaining video on Instagram as you could for Tom Cruise, you know Well, what do you know what I'm saying am I making any sense yeah, well, I think one of the worst things that's happened to

Speaker 3: Actors is they talk outside of acting it's almost the worst thing you could do Because then everybody change it changes your opinion of who they are yeah, you don't like them as much anymore

Speaker 4: You know well in Hollywood all was always one way remember what four years ago You couldn't even say the word Trump or Republican and you would be fucking ostracized I mean it was like or eight years ago

Speaker 3: I'm sure it's probably still like that now in Hollywood We're just not experiencing because you're living in Nashville, and I'm living here in Texas But yeah, if you're in certain circles in Los Angeles, they still feel the same way. Yeah, you know it's um It's just I wonder how much of the division in this country is Caused by what we were talking about by this thing. That's legal and Again, I think it should be legal I don't think you should have to tell your fucking name if you want to talk shit about something that's going on It affects your life or that affects your job or that affects your your kids school You shouldn't be subject to fucking prosecution because you said something about the school board Because you just felt like being an anonymous person saying they're a bunch of fat slobs and retards and you wanted to say that but you Couldn't say that because then you would get in trouble with your kids get in trouble and this and that Well, that's what's happening in England right now, isn't it? It 100% is it 100% is Yes, it's really happening. You can't give people that much fucking control You can't give people that much control over what offends them or what offends people what you could say what you can't say

Speaker 4: Can you imagine if we could if they would come at the end of every episode they'd be waiting outside of yours

Speaker 3: You're yeah, here's the thing man. This is a new thing. This wasn't England ten years ago All right. This is a new thing and it's a scary thing. It's a really scary thing They they arrested thousands of people for social media posts thousands. That's crazy. Were they threatening people? Well, this is what they're doing man. First of all, we're the people were the They don't have to be they don't have to be threatening Yeah, they could be misgendering. There's a lot of things that you could be alive If you can't even think or say what you want people could deem it's racist if it's anti-migrant, you know They have a migrant crisis over there in Europe People can deem it, you know anti-migrant and Islamophobic and you can there's a bunch of you know, them that are threats people threaten people online, which totally makes sense Yeah, you shouldn't be allowed to threaten people online But when you get past that if you have an opinion about something about something that's affecting You're the country that you live in. I think you should be able to express yourself, and I don't necessarily think that People should know that it's you I don't think you should have to carry that around like you you should be able to express yourself and not have to be famous I don't I don't think there's a problem with that you mean to not have to have it be known

Speaker 4: So you're saying that right? Elon should be able to also have a separate voice if he wants to or anyone you want to but the problem is

Speaker 3: If you do that then you're gonna have corporations that are doing what we're suspecting that they're doing and what this One former FBI analyst we pulled up this article a thousand times Jamie, but pull it up one more time Just because it's just so crazy. You can't believe it's real. This guy was analyzing the amount of Twitter people that are bots and this was a contentious issue contentious aspect of the purchase When Elon bought Twitter, so when Elon bought Twitter, they were saying there's only 5% bots I remember that we sampled 100 people 5% of them were bots and he's like that's not enough you have hundreds of millions of That are signed up for this how many of these people are fake, and they really didn't want to tell they didn't they just like

Speaker 4: Not a lot. Don't worry. It's like you know yeah, how many bots were programmed to lie if they were asked if they're a bot

Speaker 3: It's like a guy asking a girl. How many guys have you slept with? Nothing for don't worry about it. I'm a former CIA cyber operations officer studies bought traffic here's why it's plausible that more than 80% of Of Twitter's accounts are actually fake and Twitter is not alone More than 80% Yeah, see I don't think we realize that because we're on there for real We're real people on there, but you're real people where fake people are constantly Arguing right in front of your face like the world is ending It's not necessarily all real people there definitely are real people arguing on Twitter Don't get me wrong and I think even the fake people arguing is very addictive And I think you want to get involved too cuz you like you seen this guy dunk on that guy I want to fucking dunk on something and then people are spending all their time in this job that they hate when no one's looking the Boss isn't around, you know typing up some real witty nasty shit on Twitter and I Think there's you want to be able to do that anonymously but if you do have that and you don't know who's doing what yeah you do get to this point where someone can fucking manipulate it but if you do know then the problem is the government has already shown how fucking shady they are when someone comes out and says something that goes against what they agree with or what they're trying to push or what agenda they have or what's best for them financially so they'll They'll fucking throw the kitchen sink at you. We've seen them do that. You can't have those kind of people in power where they can know exactly who's saying what. You still have to have the ability to have whistleblowers, so you have this conundrum. On one side, you're going to have this completely manipulated environment that's done by corporations and fake people and people that are paid by parties just to push the party line and to go out there and debate it vigorously and argue it. They're paid to do it. All you have is your wits all you have is your ability to try to form your own opinions of things Regardless of like where you feel like you're pulled because of whatever ideology you you know you've publicly proclaimed to be I'm I'm a liberal Person this is how I feel I'm pro this I'm pro that and then right they'll start fighting about what that means

Speaker 4: What's scary when that happens because then you also have locked yourself into a space? where you might not change because you're afraid of what your public persona is. Exactly. And that's got to be... Well that's how you get to Dick Cheney

Speaker 3: endorses Kamala Harris and the Liberals like yeah boom. I saw this dude he posted a atomic bomb gif and is like after that happened like that's over boom. Like you guys are just dorks who don't play sports. Do you realize what kind of mental gymnastics you have to go through where Dick Cheney, rest in peace, where Dick Cheney he passed away just passed away Dick Cheney endorsing your liberal progressive candidate that somehow another that's good thing the guy was the architect of the fucking architect of the Iraq invasion weapons of mass

Speaker 4: destruction host all that shit the guy was a slumber jer guy right scary guy man he was the oil guy right you couldn't put Halliburton yeah how

Speaker 3: Halliburton fuck bro

Speaker 4: Bizarre I mean it's a gymnastic everything's gotten so bizarre, dude

Speaker 3: He's not dead. Oh, it's a fake report fake dick Cheney death report came from RT parody account You can't tell what the fuck is true well first of all how is he still alive? Alive, you know, that's how many soccer players do we lose this year midfield massive heart attacks Just running down the street People are dying and list and somehow or another dick Cheney still alive dick Cheney still out there twerking heart

Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they're doing a fake heart. I'm sure he does I'm sure he's on his sixth or seventh heart a lot of these You don't think politicians are getting fucking separate hearts and organs, dude You don't think they're first in line when they oh, yeah for sure

Speaker 3: That's probably part of like if you don't open up a hospital. This is what I want the moment my shit goes south I I want I want a doctor ready with his hands scrubbed. Yeah. Oh, I bet there's a sick Rothschild out there

Speaker 4: So every month they're putting a new ticker into him, dude. I was reading a

Speaker 3: Story last night about this dude who was one of the I think he was a Rockefeller Who got eaten see if that's I believe he's one of the rock rock Rothschilds or Rockefellers God damn it one of them fancy people when you hear the name you're like Oh that fancy family one of those so this dude went to New Guinea and got eaten by cannibals Mmm, apparently he went there. I'd hate Michael Rockefeller. So apparently he went there and They were fine. They were fine with him the first time he went there But he was trying to get something from them and the something that he was trying to get from them was sacred And apparently they were very pissed off at him, so he didn't know that they were pissed off at him So then when he went back he thought they'd be friendly with him. Yeah, and they killed him and ate him Oh my gosh. Yeah, oh, and they hid it. They hid the story forever, so they went looking for this guy like hey My rich cousin is missing Where is he and they're like I don't know they just

Speaker 4: Fucking burp. They just ate that dude. They just somebody just coughs up one of those Things that keeps your uh, what is that thing? It goes on there into your shirt. Yeah, your cuff a cuff link. Oh

Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got his coughs up a cuff link Hey, let me give a shout out to the person who's uh, it was on their YouTube channel because I can't remember Most of the details of the story, but if you go to this dude's YouTube channel, he lays it out I'll try to find a hat that match with y'all's curtain in here. That's perfect. You nailed it. Thanks I get it in here somewhere. I have a real problem with these goddamn YouTube videos. I'm watching too much I'm absorbing a lot. I'm learning things. But do you think like, um

Speaker 4: Like you talked about Islamophobia Mm-hmm in Britain Did I talk about it, what do you mean or did you mention in a minute ago Islamophobia well

Speaker 3: We're Islamophobia means we were talking about the migrant crisis. We didn't weren't necessarily saying Islamophobia. I think there's a You know, it's like the migrant crisis in the United States. It's not a crisis of one type of Individual coming in that the idea is that you want to be able to vet everybody who comes in From no matter what whether they're from Guatemala or they're from Syria. You want to find out who the fuck they are You don't want to let in criminals and psychopaths. Yeah, that's it's all that simple and if you start, you know blocking off People's ability to do that. I always have to wonder like what are you trying to do? Yeah, if you're just trying to let everybody in and not check are you trying to create chaos? Is that what you want? Because that's what I would do if I was an evil person and I wanted to fuck up an entire civilization I would just let criminals in I Would encourage criminals to go there. I would release them out of my Jails and give them money to go north. Yeah, I just walk across to America. We're gonna pay you to do it

Speaker 4: well, I think you have a lot of people that have like that believe in some sort of a moral and ethical code and They feel like they don't have a place to be sometimes, you know

Speaker 3: Well, there's also some people that grow up and they just got fucked by the world They just got brought to a real bad spot and they started off way worse than you and I for sure And that's the reality of if you want to keep a healthy society You have to keep those fucking people out like the world is not fair It's not fair And if you want to protect the best aspects of the world you got to keep them safe and then spread out spread out that safety from there. It's not let in all the bad. It's spread out the safety. It's like the way to do it isn't to just let all the criminals in and then, oh, well, now we all live with crime. Like, no, that's stupid. The way to do it is to solve the crime problem in an area and then expand that area ever greater across the world. That is totally doable. That's totally doable. You're never going to stop all crime, but you can minimize it significantly with a concerted effort, which is not being done. They're not doing that. And there's a bunch of different things that they have to do. Instead of just hiring cops to fuck people up, they should train cops better. They should pay them more. They should make them more respected. They should make people appreciate cops instead of like think of them as the enemy.

Speaker 4: I agree. We always thought that cops were reliable, but then I guess some cultures have different experiences with cops. But these days, cops are so diverse that it's like you couldn't have a, like you'd almost have to be a alien or something to have a racial issue, it feels like sometimes, you

Speaker 3: know? Well, I think cops are just like all kinds of people, and the problem with all people is they're going to vary. There's going to be some people that can handle pressure and some people that can handle having power and being a boss. Oh, that's a good point. Like, you've had good bosses. I've had great bosses who were great guys. They made you happy to work with them. You knew they were the boss, but it was a cool situation. And then you got people that are cunts just because they're bosses. You got this guy that just won't stop talking down to you because he knows he can get away with you because you need the job, he can get away with shitting on you. You've all had that too. And those, that's the problem with being a cop. Like some people are just not good at having power over people and some people are great with it. And then there's the reality of the stress that they face. Every fucking day you might get shot. Every day you're pulling people over. What is the worst thing that's going to happen to you in your day? Oh, did someone open their door on your car? Oh. Did someone whistle at you because you had big tits or whatever? I saw a 10-year-old get their face shot in. You know, I saw a little girl get run over by a car. I saw horrible murder scenes. You know, they're going upon car accidents every day. You're seeing so much awful shit. You're dealing with, and then every time you pull somebody over, every cop has seen those videos of people pulling people over and just getting lit with bullets, just fall into the ground. There's so many of those videos. Getting your gun taken away from you, getting shot and killed. We've all seen those videos. That's fucking horrible.

Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's at Walmart everywhere. A lot of that shit, it's like there's just so much violence now.

Speaker 3: There's this one where this guy was beating up this female cop, and his daughter was telling him to stop. The daughter was trying to get him to stop beating this cop to death. You're like, oh my God. so like that job is not a normal fucking job and When people don't have respect for it and don't appreciate it's a it's a sign of the the sickness of society It's the illness of society that we don't appreciate law and order and we think of it as something that somehow or another that it's uniquely oppressive and that With without it being there you'd have less problem, so there was that that was all that defund the police thing Yeah, it's just we should have learned from that and I hope a lot of people did like that's a terrible idea the problem is not Cops the problem is cops are human and right they have to stay human otherwise you're gonna get fucking Robocop

Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, so what are we gonna? Do Robocop could easily get hijacked too. That's another issue It's like a lot of silent like oh if there were cyber attacks like um Where they wanted every? Electric vehicle or something to just go drive off a cliff They could just control like 100% if they wanted every oven to just heat to 250 degrees and it's burned down every house Sure, like if something got hacked, you know, it'd be very spooky So yeah If cops got hacked for that would be crazy and then also they could just say they hacked like you could have a dirty entity hack the cops and use them for whatever they Want and then who do you even sue at that? What are you gonna even you know? You don't even people you're gonna put a robot on the stand. Well you also you would have to know

Speaker 3: What kind of like hacking is even possible and whether or not it can be detected because if they're doing it wirelessly Like can they do it? Why like Jamie you would probably know this can you hack something? wirelessly from an anonymous account and like get into a system and And no one knows who did it or is everything ultimately traceable if they could find the source of the invasion I?

Speaker 1: Think When you get to high-level stuff They're going the hacker like the the points than doing the attack goes through so many levels to try to hide where they're going from

Speaker 3: Yeah, so they can hide someone and also how many of those guys that are like operating at that level even exist yeah, how many of those like super high-level hackers are out there and And everybody else is just kind of at the mercy like if you like try it understanding that if you don't do that Yeah, so how's a judge gonna understand it? How's who's gonna understand it? Yeah, how are the cops gonna understand it, right?

Speaker 4: It's kind of yeah, it's got to be weird if you know that much stuff. You're kind of in a world of your own

Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, if you're like a super Bitcoin creator type, dude, you're in a world of your own. You're you're existing in the the most Sophisticated layers of the technological power of the likes the world's never Seen before never seen anything like it and you're the people that are at the head of the code You're the people that are making AI

Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like Krypto for Columbus or whatever. You're That's great dude if people that's why I've said this for years people with autism are the they're the link between regular people and machines it's that's where we're headed it's all no in seven two generations everyone will have autism you won't be able to find anybody that doesn't have it or that doesn't I kind of freak out if like somebody's

Speaker 3: like whistling or whatever it's almost like whatever the reason why more people have autism today I'm sure there's a bunch of people that think it's vaccines there's a bunch of people that think it's environmental issues there's a

Speaker 4: Bunch of people think it's chick-fil-a some people probably could be could be I'll take it though dude. It's so fucking good There's no way you wouldn't take some chick-fil-a tism dude if they had it If you like every now and then just a weird guy runs out of the back room with a Couple pickles on his back dude. I'd fucking be like I love this guy no matter what he has you know I totally forgot what I was gonna say. Sorry it was

Speaker 3: It had something to do with autism that oh what we were talking about like oh I think that this is the end of the realm so just imagine all right So there's whatever the reason why there's more cases of autism most people I think will agree there are more cases of autism now than ever before okay? But what meaningful changes have we done if any to try to limit that or to try to mitigate that or pull that back? I'm not sure and what meaningful like like what progress has been made where you're saying like oh now we have 20% less autistic kids So if so, that's not the case and yet we're in the greatest Technological time that we've ever been aware of and people have more access to information now than ever before Why? Why is it moving in that direction and maybe that is a natural thing? Maybe all this transgender shit where everybody's like oh my god like I am so sick here and there's boys and there's girls and that's it. Maybe when you find out about plastics and the things that's happening to the human body because it's fucking with our endocrine system and it's it's shrinking people's genitals and shrinking people's taints and lowering testosterone levels and calling more more miscarriages causing more than miscarriages. If you were watching this Playout if you were not connected to us. Yeah, and if you were like from another planet and you're like, what is this thing doing? Oh, so this is a very complicated animal and this animal gets involved in various plastics and metals and The it has a symbiotic relationship with plastics and metals where the plastics and metals it gives them cars and handbags and television sets But it also robs them of their primal essence and slowly turns them into these genderless weird creatures that can only survive by Replicating through their DNA dude well said bro because if you're if you were looking at it from somewhere else And you were looking at what are we addicted to we're addicted to electronics, and we're addicted to plastic Yeah, we use plastic for everything and we're willing to sacrifice something for it dude I was reading this whole thing about Petroleum in the health care industry and like health and wellness and like oils and shit like how much petroleum is used in all this It's everywhere. It's just everywhere. It's Bizarrely everywhere petroleum is petroleum is so you've got oil and you've got plastics and you've got all of these weird funky phthalates and chemicals and and pesticides and herbicides, and we're all aware of it. We're like, this is really a problem. This is really a problem. We're gonna fucking blast in the air. It's all of your food. Like, this could be a problem. Everyone's on fucking Monsanto. Like, fucking glyphosate is everywhere. And everyone's like, well, we'll certainly get to the bottom of that once we make it safer for queer kids. And then it's slowly, we're going to get to a point of no return where our genetics are fucked by our environmental pollutants which have only existed over the last couple hundred years. So our genetics get fucked by these environmental pollutants and they're like giant changes in human testosterone levels just from the 1970s, giant changes.

Speaker 4: Oh yeah, dude.

Speaker 3: So I think if you're on that path and you're clearly on that path, we are as a human race, we're clearly on that path.

Speaker 4: Fast.

Speaker 3: And we're also at the same time on the path of artificial intelligence. It's like, how much time do we really have? How much time do we really have here?

Speaker 4: What if this though, what if a trans kid, how many trans people are there?

Speaker 3: They're all trans now, everybody.

Speaker 4: Right. What if this- The whole country is trans.

Speaker 3: What if this- I think they've backed off a lot of it. A lot of people have decided that they really didn't want to do it anymore.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 3: There's quite a few and they get, people get mad at them, which is really wild.

Speaker 4: When they-

Speaker 3: People get mad at them for changing their mind.

Speaker 4: Have you interviewed anybody that has gone down the surgery path Doesn't did and didn't want to have the surgery if you ever talked to somebody like that No, just curious what that whole what that world is like

Speaker 3: It's everybody's got their own weird thing with that because it's a weird thing like you're you don't like your sexual organs You're born with you identify with another gender or at least you think you do right at least like you Identify with what they like more than what the boys like You're probably just gay And that's one of the things that they've studied is when they leave transgender or supposedly transgender Youths and they don't do anything. They eventually become gay men. Oh, I say big Big percentage of them. Yeah, does that mean they're all like that and some people don't Like genuinely have like true gender dysphoria. No, does it they've that's always been a thing, too

Speaker 4: And being gay used to seem like if you were just gay that was everything It was like it was like, but I guess everything it was like gay didn't it was like Oh, if you if you were trans or any now, it's LGBTQ. I right and I'm there's also yeah, there's intersects plus two

Speaker 3: Plus right. What is plus which was I don't know. I know two is two-spirit, which is my favorite. Really? I know I'm gonna need spirit. They took the kooky two-spirit people in the Native American No, two-spirit is like a very specific like let's google it two-spirit is like you think you're like Foxkin or some shit like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well they they I this is where I found out that I might be fucking up What two-spirit is but this is where I found out about this stuff because my a buddy of mine who was in Utah his wife worked at a public school and He told me that she told him that they were having a meeting because one of the parents had proposed putting a litter box in the bathroom because the kid thinks it's a cat. Oh that's crazy. And he told me that I talked about it on podcast and people started saying that that was transphobic and this is a transphobic lie and I was like whoa whoa whoa whoa. So it wasn't a real story you mean? First of all what does that have to do with transgender? What does that have to do with that? You're talking about someone Things are a cat. Oh, how is that transphobic? Yeah, and then I realized like that Oh, there's a lot of things connected in this one group that are not the same thing Like they're just trying to lump in every idea like say if you only have like You know the Electoral College you get like a couple points in this state But if you win like ten fucking states, you got a big coalition you can get in the White House, you know So it's like if you can't just transgender people on their own Too many people like no you can't go into the women's room get out of here But then you add them to the game. Oh, I see Adam to the queers, which is like What does that mean, you know, and then if you're you're more of a buffet of what is this? Are you? Okay, two-spirit people may be straight gay bisexual asexual or queer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly They're the people that want to pretend the most I'm everything. I'm a boy You're a fucking narcissist probably you're probably a loon or maybe you really have this two-spirit thing I don't know, but there's a variety of things that are true at the same time. You know, you're gonna have people that are kooky And you're also gonna have people that unfortunately really do wish they were born a girl Yeah, both those things are real. But the thing about us as a Species if you're looking at these drops that are all clearly established markers in terms of testosterone levels miscarriages men who are Incapable of having children low sperm counts smaller testicles and penises like we're moving in the gym We're moving in a direction of looking like those fucking aliens

Speaker 4: Well, that's what I've said this fears if you look at an alien right their head is big Yeah, cuz that's the only thing that's going still yeah, and their body is this useless sort of fucking

Speaker 3: Christmas only spindly genderless

Speaker 4: Thing yeah, it's genderless like no tits. That's stuff. I'm a weighted blanket You want to stop an alien for one way to blanket on that bad boy I bet they don't interact with things. Well, of course they don't because everything happens in their head. It's all built-in at that point Why do you even need if you can just blink and come or whatever? Yeah, you know you fucking blink again and you have a mortgage and then you fucking cough and your fucking parents are deceased

Speaker 3: It's just like there's no non Non-aware language you you speak every language You know every fact about everything on earth at any given moment. It's all in your head. There's no questions There's no no dick. Yeah, no, you can't even enjoy food. You have no mouth. Yeah

Speaker 4: Food second I'm catching a BJ

Speaker 3: Fucking alien imagine that getting head from an alien imagine you wake up in the middle of the night like you have a crazy sex dream And you're like oh my god like you you're getting like you ever have a dream when you're having sex Yeah, I think in the dream. You're actually having sex. It feels real guys come in their pants. Oh, I had a dream

Speaker 4: I was on an airplane one time dude. I was flying to Philadelphia right and I had a dream that I was doing oral sex Right yeah, and uh and I was just kind of like that in the air and this old dude fucking shook I mean, he's like get it together

Speaker 3: Well, I was on the plane. It was told you to get it together. Yeah, I was eating air pussy

Speaker 4: At that point it's okay

Speaker 3: Open your eyes and an alien was blowing. Oh, I bet it's like feel trapped you're paralyzed the alien It's just sucking your dick looking you in the eyes big insect eyes just No, could you imagine no? Fucks. I'm not kidding. That's a real horror movie Could you imagine you're paralyzed an alien is sucking your dick? What sound does it make I bet it makes it sound like a Lurpee They do over exaggerate they give you like a caricature We know they like it when you make a lot of noise

Speaker 4: But they're not even moving it's just a feeling and making the noise or it also has that light You know like whatever you make a xerox copy of something in that fucking light I don't even want that dude. What was I seeing the other day? They're having uh gay uh animals now is that They were having gay. What are you saying if you pull that up jimmy if you see anything of it

Speaker 5: Or that animal request is that well i'm just saying if you see um

Speaker 3: Bro animals fuck couches they fuck your leg, okay, you have a dog well some dogs will grab ahold your leg They know your leg isn't a female dog. They don't care. They grab a hold your leg does that mean he's gay

Speaker 4: No, I mean he's crazy horny, but no I was seeing something where they were trying to have a hot It's like a upscale meat or beef that comes from a gay

Speaker 3: Why this one hold on this? Why is this ignoring all the gay animals go down to that? It's a great study this this is like those that James Lindsay Helen Pluck rose Peter Boghossian thing What is it? What does it say? Can I agree that the headline? Why are scientists ignoring all the gay animals? Yeah, you may imagine like you're a scientist And you know you're trying to figure out how old the universe is and that that's the complaint you read first thing in the morning And you're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, there's other shit to worry about. Hey, you telling me this otter ain't a homosexual? I'm trying to figure out how old the fucking universe is. That's why there's not a lot of federal funding for gay animals.

Speaker 4: Oh, there is now.

Speaker 3: I have to get funding for this stuff.

Speaker 4: I'm sure we spent a bill on it, dude.

Speaker 3: Yeah, that was another thing that was crazy about the Harris campaign was when you found out that they can pay activist groups. They give give donations to activist groups like large sums of money Activist groups like what so that these people will endorse them. Oh I see. There's an accusation that she gave What's that dude's name? Who's on MSNBC the old dude Don Leonard. No, no Tom Leonard you combine two names Don Lemon and who Sugar Ray Leonard Don Lemon did

Speaker 4: Yeah Al Sharpton Don Don's got a little more sugar than Ray Leonard, I think No judgment, dude, but I'll tell you this maple sir gay Gay animal meat is gonna be the new thing. You telling me you're at a restaurant, right? Gay lamb, okay. You can have this lamb $70 this shank or You could have this sweet little lamb

Speaker 3: This is for 90 bucks the best of both worlds, so it's got the firmness of male Yeah, well says that sweet tenderness of female. Yeah, it's also been basted from the inside

Speaker 4: You know I think there's you tell me you're not gonna get a gay steak dude for an extra 20 bucks

Speaker 3: You're gonna try if you're LBGT friendly you want to support the gay steak market you have to yeah No and encouraging straight cows to fuck each other

Speaker 5: They realize there's more money in gay state

Speaker 4: You're like I'll take a steak you like

Speaker 3: Attention market that is social media There has to be a few people out there that are pretending to be gay that aren't like here's a good for sure Here's a good example. There were a bunch of girls and people got mad at them Because they're hot female only fans girls and they started putting fake dicks in their in their pants Okay, and Pretending that they're trans because I was getting them a lot more views So apparently the way to get a lot of views is to be a really hot trans person Like really hot trans people are in right now Oh really hot like a girl like a super hot girl with a hog on you with this Big ol hog on you. So people got mad and started saying that my identity is not your costume

Speaker 4: Like the actual cultural appropriation kind of yeah, but like hey

Speaker 5: Right, are you doing that?

Speaker 3: Are you doing that you have a dick and you're saying you're a girl and then these girls who don't have a dick are putting A dick on and you're saying you can't do that. Oh, so they're all this is crazy

Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like we're caught in a blender dude first

Speaker 3: I heard it's very short-sighted because you should be pro trans even if it's fake trans right if that would make more people into trans

Speaker 4: People that'd be better for everybody right no matter what now are some people it's a famine thinking are there really some people Are people born with wiener and breast is that a real thing?

Speaker 3: I have not heard of that But I know that some guys do have problems with their breasts like there's a thing when guys take steroids They develop something called gynomastica and gynomastica is an enlargement of the breast tissue I know guys who have had to get their nipples cut open and they have to get that removed and then sewn back together Again, it's like a serious operation But so are some people that is that's breast tissue because they take so much testosterone That their body starts producing extra estrogen. Okay, and then they get titties as a side effect. Yeah, I don't I hope I'm not fucking that Up. That's what I've been told. I'm pretty sure that's how it goes But the point is that's the only time I've ever heard of like with a dick and tits

Speaker 4: But some people are born with both genitals, right?

Speaker 3: Yes. That's a little different, right? That's pretty rare. That's called a hermaphrodite, or now I think they call them intersex now. People are always trying to come up with new names.

Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. My buddy had these growing up.

Speaker 3: See, that's it. Hot tits. Normal breast tissue. Hormone imbalance. Causes swelling. First of all. Causes some sweet titties.

Speaker 4: Yeah, first batch I ever saw were my buddy's. Shout out to him, dude. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3: If I could just crop out that right tit, I could rub one off of that right tit. I used to look at my buddy like that. You go back to his uh, it's his left. So his left it's like no, no, I don't want to see those the technical the actual one So if you just cropped in his left his left that one. Yeah, just crop in that remove all side of hair Look at that little milk porch he's got on him brother. That's like a hot athletic girl's boob. Oh damn, that's a fucking little nerve brain We don't really need to don't don't do that

Speaker 4: But I'm telling you this you telling me this if you don't you make a stake out of that man You're not gonna pay an extra 30 bucks, and then the problem would be they would start That's it so so they're doing it a lot of people, but what if do you think though? This is what I wonder sometimes. Do you think that science has us headed so we were all that Everyone is gonna be trans at what like it's like it's all merging

Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're gonna be genderless really go to that article again. I want to see what they were saying What would they say it said it was only two of them? I don't know how Not on my Instagram Gang might have started a trend. They're all over the place only fans models Can I just read that only fans models are targeted by online LGBTQ mob after posing in underwear with fake bulges That's so crazy That's so great. That's so hypocritical. I

Speaker 4: Wonder dude, I heard jelly rolls got that thing on him. I heard he's got it real

Speaker 3: I bet it does look at that just two boys being silly alongside a trans flag How can you get mad How can you get mad? Got that donkey, but you you can't get mad because that violates like you're saying that your Your standards are more important than them doing this thing to get attention. Your standards of what's real is not real. No, no, no, no, no. It doesn't work that way. Because then it's only your standards, because if you want that kind of a strict control of the way people view things, you're going to allow people to turn that on you, and there's going to be way more people that have a hard time with you saying that you're a woman when You have a dick then there's gonna be for a bunch of girls who just want to take pictures where they have fake bulges Yeah, that doesn't make You're just being a control freak like you know you can't have no fake trans people But only real trans people, but don't let anybody right. It's like saying you can't roll who decides what's real

Speaker 4: What's not real right? It's almost the same with like a lot of cultural appropriation stuff at a certain point

Speaker 3: It just gets ridiculous. It's like you can't you know did you see that one dude who faked it for like six months? They'd be in black effect. No, you can't do that anymore

Speaker 4: I'm not doing it

Speaker 3: No, he faked being a woman. You know that dude. He was on like one of those reality shows and he had all the tattoos It was like good-looking guy, which which is why I was crazy and he said he was transitioning and he was just a troll He did it for like six months chicks. No, just like making videos on But he kept it up forever that dude Explaining Josh Cedar's trans hoax, alleged fake death, and why Monica Beverly Hills is involved. I don't know who Monica Beverly Hills is.

Speaker 4: Me neither.

Speaker 3: Um, so this guy, it was very smart. It said he's been undergoing a crash out of most epic pro- out of the most epic proportions and somehow RuPaul's Drag Race doll Monica Beverly Hills is involved. Is this like a far left-wing blog because the way they're writing this is like Okay, well that makes sense First of all, it's called them dot us. Yeah, I was like, what is the I don't understand what the Tone of this article is so go back to it now So he's pretending to be trans Joe. Yes. Okay for a long time. Okay, here goes scroll up a little bit Oh, here it goes the former reality TV star has gone viral on social media for the worst reasons That's definitely not the worst reason

Speaker 7: Yeah

Speaker 3: Allegedly faking his own death and claiming it was a hack as well as pretending to be trans and posting photos of himself in feminine Clothes is an experimental mockery of trans people that he claims is exposing the woke mind virus But that's not the worst reasons the worst reasons is like you killed a bunch of folks Just the worst reasons you lit a school on fire. That's the worst reasons like that's not the worst reasons for going viral It was why did he pretend to be trans? He came out as a trans woman. He gave interviews with public like page six, but are there people that aren't?

Speaker 4: Came out of the trans Okay, so this guy just pretended to be trans for a long time a long time. He was making a mockery of them

Speaker 3: He said five months, so he did it for five months, so So in October, five months later, he said that it was actually, it was all a social experiment on an episode of the conservative podcast, Prime Time with Alex Stein. Sider said the purpose was to expose how gullible and delusional the left is. What it did is I fake being a faker, he said. I pretended to be a pretender. But yeah, well that's, the thing is like people don't want to admit that he's correct because it makes you insensitive.

Speaker 4: What he's saying is like logical, right? It's logical. And so what if people are actually trained or some people actually trans

Speaker 3: You'd have to ask them. Okay, therein lies the problem. I think there are people that are not though There's people that are perverts for sure and pretend to be trans so they can go to women's rooms for sure. Oh, yeah Yeah, for sure. I'm not accusing all of them. I'm just saying it's I've seen it There's you're going to have that if you have this thing this loophole This new thing when I was a kid if a guy had a with a beard and a dress tried to go into the women's Room men would go in there and beat the fuck out of them. Yeah, they wouldn't let that happen It's that they would say oh that guy's a pervert and if a woman went into the men's room

Speaker 4: We told her to bring a couple of her friends Still in a respectable way about or you would guard the door while they were urinating That was another thing if a woman said I really need to urinate in here, you know

Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no one would care A parent maybe had a relationship with this Monica Beverly Hills person.

Speaker 3: Oh, is Monica Beverly Hills a gay guy?

Speaker 1: It's a contestant from Drag Race.

Speaker 7: Oh.

Speaker 1: So then this person tried to out them, I guess, and then he denied it, and then I guess there might be evidence of it. Oh. So they're saying that he might have done this all in retaliation for this.

Speaker 4: See, that's what happens a lot of times is people will...

Speaker 1: I don't know, I just read that.

Speaker 3: Listen, for whatever, maybe the guy's gay, and he pretended to be a woman. He's not a woman, all right? So maybe he had a gay relationship with a drag queen, or maybe it's not even a gay relationship if it's a drag queen. I don't remember anymore. I don't know what the new regulations are. All I'm telling you is- I don't know what the new regulations are. All I'm saying is, if you wanna be a person who is open-minded, and who's compassionate, and who wants to let people live and let live, you can't get mad at these girls putting rubber dicks in their pants yeah somebody dressing up like for someone

Speaker 4: for Halloween I feel like right a little bit but you could say that's what they're doing though I see what you're saying you know you're saying you're making a you're making your own Halloween yeah you can't be upset when you make a

Speaker 3: Halloween you can you can say you're a girl you can say you're a girl and you can be a guy with a beard and long nails and say you're a girl but you can't make me go along with it I see what you're saying I'm not saying that you can't say You're a girl. I'm not saying that you can't call yourself a new name but if we're in this weird aggressive situation and you want me to Say you're a girl so that you can go do girl things in the girls room and like you can't make me agree to that That's that's where it gets crazy. Like if you're not infringing on anybody else's space There's a reason girls don't want to be in a fucking bathroom with dudes

Speaker 6: Yeah

Speaker 3: And if it's like trans men in the men's room men don't give a fuck because women aren't going in there to rape men Right, right. So that's the difference. They're women that think they're men No one cares if a woman who thinks she's a man wants to enter into men's sports. No one's gonna stop her

Speaker 4: Right, cuz somebody it's all one direction. Isn't it? Isn't it always men going to women's stuff?

Speaker 3: Well for sports for sure Look, there have been women that are they've turned trans and competed against boys that it definitely has happened But the striking dominance that you see where trans men or trans trans women biological men who identify as women compete against regular biological women in sports yeah isn't it's crazy you get people with like I would listen when uh it's just it's a delusion it's just a delusion that you shouldn't let in if you want to have an

Speaker 4: all-trans league do that that's what we should do I feel like it seems like

Speaker 3: there should be that so that this is a cheat code you can't just say you're a You're not a girl. Let's do a DNA test. Let's do a chromosome test. Oh look x y you're a guy

Speaker 4: Will DNA tell you the truth every single time will that answer always be the fucking chromosomes will okay?

Speaker 3: So there's no look there's gonna be a variable thing. There's gonna be a thing even with that right So if you have like male and female all male and all female are not created equal There's a giant curve between like the most manly man and the most womanly man And then the most manly woman and the most womanly woman like there's this giant fucking curve that all it means to be a human Being I can't tell you where you are in that curve. Yeah, I don't know what you are you man. You'd be you I'll be fine. I want you to be happy, but you can't pretend you're in that other group You can't especially if you are the male pretending you're a female you want to enter into like women's rooms You can't do that because there's too much of a potential for that to be abused by creeps Mm-hmm. So what's the solution? I don't know what the solution is. I don't know, you know individual bathrooms

Speaker 4: What about that family restroom that always has dude? I'll tell you this the worst thing is

Speaker 3: One with the diaper table. Yeah one special bathroom

Speaker 4: Australian diaper table in it or whatever. You're like, what is this?

Speaker 3: You don't even have a diaper, but you do have a hog and a dress. Yeah And you're like, I'm just gonna use this one, just not freak anybody out. Like Jelly Roll, dude. He's got that hog on him, huh? Yeah, but he's clearly identifying as a male. Oh, yeah. No one's denying. But if he wasn't, and then he had that big old hog, keep him out of the women's room.

Speaker 4: I'm just saying he's got that mistletoe on him, I heard, you know? That's what I heard, dude. I heard he's got that, you know that thing that cops throw out to get the car to stop

Speaker 3: if it's going real fast? Those nails on the strip?

Speaker 4: I'm just saying I heard he's got that rope on him, boy. Damn. Whatever, dude. Stay black, homie. That's what Joey Diaz always says. Stay black.

Speaker 3: That's the most important thing. That's the most important thing. Oh my God. Have you ever seen the video where, speaking of Alex Jones, where Joey Diaz and Alex Jones, Alex Jones is trying to calm Joey Diaz down, and I'm next to him. I'm just crying, laughing, and Joey's telling some story about how he smuggled weed through the airport under his nutsack, and that they didn't catch him, and they're like, what kind Fucking security do we have here like see if you can find it because it's I am like literally crying Laughing like I can't breathe. I'm fucking crying. I haven't seen I'm trying to go what I was going off And this is you know Alex Jones of like the early 2000s

Speaker 4: No, I saw they got that new tariff in New York City. Do you see that nine bucks to drive into the city now? That's so crazy during congestion time so during so crazy. I think it's 5 a.m.. To 2 They're just trying to ruin that city, man. Well I just wonder what will that, like who does, obviously it hits, everything hits people that don't have money the hardest, right?

Speaker 3: You know we were talking about how once people have power over you, once they have control over you, they never want to let that go?

Speaker 6: Oh for sure.

Speaker 3: The East Coast is a great example of that, and one of the best examples is the tolls. The tolls were supposed to be created to pay for the city, to build the roads, build the But they paid for it a hundred times over once it's already been paid right now You're just stealing money from people because you can't yeah So then they just fill their coffers up and fill their bureaucracy and fill their red tape to justify all this money coming in

Speaker 4: It's all it's all a scheme. This is Joey on the Alex Jones show

Speaker 3: 2010

Speaker 8: They're just better at covering up what they do did they kill michael jackson no i don't know look at the movie he was dancing and singing and next you know he's dying oxygen no not not right a junkie's a junkie's a junkie's a junkie every day he doesn't wake up singing dance and then he has oxygen tanks at night something's not right there and in my case like old school you're worth more dead than what you are alive you understand me and now they got a new record coming out ain't in debt no more he's doing a tour next year with the people from uh vegas that jump up and down the blue band group whatever the how that is. I mean he's worth more now than he's ever been. I think Paul McCartney killed Michael Jackson. If it was up to me, me knowing what I know, I'd smoke another joint. I'll break it down. I'll break it down because he bought the music from Paul McCartney and didn't want to give it back to him. And all of a sudden they put Paul McCartney in the Super Bowl. They tried to build up the Beatles to get their thing going and all of a sudden Michael Jackson. I believe it goes

Speaker 3: A lot longer the best is the end though. He says stay black. It just gets in the very back

Speaker 8: Tommy listen to your bullshit congressman or your bullshit governor or even a bullshit president somebody was running for president And he's hitting you with that same for shit that they give you every four fucking years And you still vote for the fucking Momo and you get mad think about me saying the word fuck with that. I'm out Very solid points don't do the don't know I know Joey you get it But this is to let the American public know that every four years they buy the same shit They've been buying a before years and the same people with their Harvard articulation And they're Christians and they have a family and these are the same people that shove it up your fucking ass every year The one thing that you get about me is I'll say fuck, but I will not fucking rob you if I need some I'll ask you like a man Hey, so go fuck yourself you cunt. Hold on, hold on one second. Take a joke, take a shuttle. Joey Diaz, Facebook, Twitter, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Big dicks in your ass up in front of your house. Now get out of here, you're in trouble. He comes back. I'm the umpire, this is, I'm throwing, all right, all right. Stay black, stay black, because that's the most important thing. Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, what show's over? Why are we even talking?

Speaker 4: Stay black, dude. Bro, we gotta start getting more, You're gonna when are you gonna start to see people just identify as black then you can't do that They won't let you do that. Yeah, but that's what they said about everything

Speaker 3: Yeah, but that one's been a hard line for a while used to be able to do blackface think about it So many people did blackface in movies Robert Downey jr. But did blackface in the early 2000s, right? Look at that movie soul, man. Remember the guy pretended to be black to get like a car

Speaker 4: Yeah, he did it. A lot of people did it Lex Lexter Holt. I don't even think I think, he looks. I think that's his real skin color. You do? Yeah, I think that is. Okay.

Speaker 3: That's a rumor. The point is, that is, it's going the other direction. It's not going the direction of like the Rachel Dolls.

Speaker 4: No. I think you're gonna have a real surgence coming up.

Speaker 3: Well, there are people that have tried it. The problem is, now with 23andMe, it's real hard to pull off.

Speaker 4: Mike Perry? He's got like 2%. It's got like you percent you're gonna tell hey, I ain't gonna tell him he ain't My fairy is a zebra if he wants to be yeah, but I'm not in people that are trying to be black and see um Like by texturizing their skin, there's new things Joe

Speaker 3: Well, I definitely think that people are taking pills. I've heard of that. Yeah darkening pills or whatever Yeah, there's some kind of medication that you can take maybe it's a peptide that darkens your skin Oh, maybe it may be a peptide, but I've heard of it It might even have some weird like melanin name like melanolone or yeah, I don't remember though But I do remember seeing it on an internet article where you know There's like how far people going to like look different. Oh, yeah shit that people are doing dark buddy or whatever. They're calling it

Speaker 4: Buddy buddy, and you just like take a couple pills of it

Speaker 3: Oh, you're thinking to Justin Trudeau doing blackface. You know you just retired retired. Yeah, that's crazy Well, yeah, he's stepping down till they find they're gonna have to find a replacement, and then he leaves I liked him better when he was black that that was very brief. I think but

Speaker 4: Bro people have hammered on that guy so much, but you rightly so man That's just he doesn't seem like he has a communist any strength inside of him of his own Character from a Charles Dickens novel bring if you bring up that his retirement speech from the other day. Yeah

Speaker 3: Well, it's fake It's fake. It's all fake. He's like a fake progressive the whole thing's fake That's why he was an authoritarian and he kept cracking down on on people's rights and they all really saw it during that trucker protest because that's when it was really in front of everybody's face where he couldn't ignore it here's this guy who is trying to he's freezing bank accounts from the people that donated money to the truckers is now yeah I

Speaker 4: don't want to listen this fuck this guy but he very much has a character from a

Speaker 3: Charles Dickens novel doesn't he it's it's because it's performative look like AI though look if you go to see a movie about Charles Dickens here's one thing when you ever go to see like an old-timey movie, everyone talks in a more elegant and sophisticated manner. Hello, father. Hello. Yeah, there's a difference to the way people talked in those like Dickens type.

Speaker 4: I've got rubella, dad. Yeah. Tommy has rubella.

Speaker 3: You know why? Because it's fake, right? Like that's how people used to make movies back then. Did people really talk like that back then? No, no, people talked the way they talk. Nuh-uh. It's just people were just not, well they talked and they had different vernacular than they do now, But people, when you're performing something, performing something was new. You have to think about this. If you go back and watch movies, like one of the things that's great about the fact that we produce so much content is that what it's done, the entire bank of all the content that people created since the beginning of television being started to the rock and roll boom of the 1960s to the internet to all these, you can see the way people communicate evolves and changes. And if you go back to the earliest representations of broadcast media in the country, everyone talks in a way that's not natural. James J. Braddock like that. Here we are, ABC News World Report. Hitler has moved into, you know, it's like there's a way that they talk back then. And then there's, if you go watch those movies, they talked fake in the movies. It's like Marlon Brando was the first guy to not talk fake and everybody's like what is this guy doing? It's revolutionary

Speaker 5: He seems like he's a real guy Like no one even knew how to do that until Brando came along and did it

Speaker 3: And so then movies good became and then you get a guy like a Daniel Day-lewis. Yeah, you know, where does he come from? He could well he comes from this entire evolutionary tree of people figuring out what's the best way to pretend publicly And the way that they would do it in the Charles Dickens movies was a primitive way. It's like when you're watching Albert is sick dad Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer was on the other day. It was like Christmas around the house Oh, yeah, the old one the claymation way. Yeah, well there the snow is moving around Rudolph a snowman Yeah, it's goofy as fuck Santa looks goofy as fuck. It's terrible the way people talk Santa I seem so fake, but that was a standard. It's like six million dollar man was a good show Okay, it was a good show right that was the standard the standard was terrible like we had a terrible standard for communication That standards changed over time It's changed so the people that are still doing it that way it's Glaringly obvious right so what Justin Trudeau is doing he's doing like a a Fuckin strip club DJ voice. Yeah. Hey, you know, he's like Lexus to the main stage. Good evening, Manitoba You don't know who that guy is. You're not getting any of him. That is a mask. Yeah, you're not getting any of him

Speaker 4: Well, he went to that tragically hit concert. Is that the band tragically hit or whatever? Huh? Tragically hip. Yeah, he went to that concert He wore a jean jacket everybody thought he was like a vibe and I think that's how he won that election or whatever Wow

Speaker 3: You know it's hilarious, and then he's good-looking. He's tall and he's charismatic He's figured out a way to bullshit in the beginning before he had any power it works Yeah Cuz he sounded like a sensible guy But people get revealed when they face pressure and when he faced pressure during that trucker thing then he showed his true cards

Speaker 4: Do you think that they'll take Canada in to be the 50s? First or second state whichever one it is. I think

Speaker 3: This is what I think I think we take Canada, and then we go right into Mexico. Let's fucking go whoa Whoa, yeah, that's what I said. I tweeted that today. You did I didn't see that She let Mexico in too. I want to be fucking everybody keeps sneaking over. How do we just let him stay here? Yeah, just like how about we go into that? How about what I said? How about what he said it like instead of trying to like let all the bad stuff in how about we make this like totally? Lockdown safe and then expand safety Expand it But you got to do it without stripping people of their rights

Speaker 4: It's a lot. It's a lot. But also there's a problem like Poland doesn't let anybody in or out of their country. Is that right? Poland doesn't and that's what like why isn't why don't some countries like Well, I guess America is kind of this it's kind of a halfway house of Like ideals over the years it feels like you know It feels like like I always thought there was this like yeah idea of this is an American This is what we do You know it's kind of like how you were brought up like With the Pledge of Allegiance civics class all that type of stuff like this is what it means like Ford tough type vibes You know, but then it everything kind of changes over time and now I feel like it's we don't know what America is And I think that's the part that seems super scary to people sometimes well

Speaker 3: That's the part that's easy to manipulate right so in this moment of chaos that we're talking about I don't know what America is anymore. That's when you get all these fucking activist groups that are not real That's when you get this discourse online That's when you get people attacking and you get real people that get caught up in it, too And they're getting you caught up in it as well because all these people like people are super addicted to arguing with stuff online And I you know, I see like otherwise very reasonable people that are on Twitter 12 hours a day And I just don't understand what the fuck is wrong with you. Yeah, otherwise very reasonable successful people. Why are you doing this?

Speaker 4: Yeah, some people tweet all day Elon tweets all day all day But it must be an addiction right at this point. I mean, there's no way and if it's real Do you think it's really him doing it?

Speaker 3: Well, that was the Andre Dittman thing. That was the thing that people were saying that this was a fake So was that proven that it wasn't him? I've been trying to track that down to have no idea what I'd heard that it was proven that it wasn't him because this guy Who sounds like Elon was doing something while Elon was playing Diablo live

Speaker 1: They had them talk to each other I think in a space right they were never taught They were definitely both making noise at the same time, but again like without seeing both It's also never seen a picture of the other guy. I don't think that could be a I

Speaker 3: Right you told me a guy like Elon couldn't like just for funsies Rig something like that that's tested. He's catching rockets with robot arms. You know you don't think you could figure that out Yeah, figure that out. He could have the algorithms talk to each other I I think there's you know they can already translate your your language the you know They can take whatever you're saying right now and your podcast and they can translate it to German they could translate to Spanish They could translate to anything hmm if they can do that they could for sure have a Version of you that's quick enough with AI that it could respond like a person would yeah

Speaker 4: Well it's just it's all gonna get interesting because now there's there used to be places if you didn't like what was going on you could sail off to another place but there's not made that many of those places anymore. No that's

Speaker 3: one of the reasons why we got to protect America. We've got to protect freedom because if they can lock down on us we are the last beacon of hope for the world and I know that sounds ridiculous oh you guys are so ridiculous Hope so egocentrical look what's happening to Europe look at the chaos look at the chaos Look, it's look. It's what's happening in terms of like how people are upset at their political parties look at what's happening with Palestine and Israel look what's happening with Ukraine and Russia did you see that fucking bomb that went off today? You want to see something nuts? That's real. You don't know if it's real

Speaker 1: Yeah, for real sent me in the middle of night. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think

Speaker 3: I was taking a shit. Oh, yeah, Jamie needs to know about this one. Oh

Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I don't like shitting at night cuz I know I'll go back to sleep So I'm sitting there my legs will fall asleep ever that happened to you, bub

Speaker 3: Yes

Speaker 4: And then you try to get up you're like, I'm stuck here shit Island. Yeah, your legs go numb

Speaker 3: And then you just fall down and hurt yourself you just imagine. That's how you hurt yourself like slipping Your pants down by your ankles and your numb ass stupid legs You bang your fucking head into the nightstand like

Speaker 5: And your wife's like is this Here's a protector you KO'd yourself in the toilet room Slamming your head off the fucking doorknob don't get a big circle in the middle your forehead for a month Every time she looks at you. She thinks you with your stupid fucking bruise your pants down by your ankles

Speaker 3: half-wiped ass

Speaker 4: My mom used to always come we doze off on the shitter as children You know my mom would always come in there and rescue us or whatever you that's hilarious pretty now

Speaker 3: It must be more common because of phones. Oh, yeah people a lot of time a lot of crazy stuff

Speaker 4: I mean, you know the Asians can't eat hot dogs anymore to saw that the other day as a general rule They're not allowing it North Korea. What were you just looking up Jamie?

Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to see this

Speaker 1: I've already How to shoot down It's I don't think that video is real. I'll just start there you son of a bitch But there's already said saying like don't believe the hype from a 2023 Ukraine and the Kinzel missile

Speaker 3: Don't believe the hypersonic. I well, I remember in the beginning of the war There was a bunch of footage that turned out to just be video games. It was going everywhere because People can make money from clicks, right? So Can I see that again

Speaker 4: Well, everything's just dangerous now How do you know that's not real?

Speaker 1: That when it comes up here that video of that bomb and that's really like that's to someone edited to that part Those two things aren't the same What way just I'm just my history of looking at this stuff a lot

Speaker 3: so

Speaker 1: It's a lot of separation right there. Oh

Speaker 3: line, mm-hmm But if it's far enough away for the curvature of the earth wouldn't that?

Speaker 1: Are in theory it could be real, but this is the only video of this that exists, right? And no one else is claiming that this is real anywhere else online, right?

Speaker 3: Um, what I'm seeing though, is that that thing that you're looking at in the background is elevated, right? So that that would indicate to me hills and valleys So that means the bomb could be going off in the valley below that and I don't know how far down that is So if you're talking about an area like this could be Utah, right? So if you if you're taking a photograph in certain like Utah, it's got a soccer field. Oh, yeah Where do they play a lot of soccer in Ukraine, Utah? Oh Ukraine? They probably do right so see what I'm saying like that could Be far enough over that hill where you get that effect of separation and still be natural

Speaker 1: The way that it even looks though It looks like someone's got a TV behind another thing and they're showing an explosion of a TV The way that that looks is not even but it does look like a little exposed correctly if you write It looks pulls the way it gets. Yeah, it looks grainier And I don't know how you would be filming that to catch a hypersonic missile. It says it was a US people reporter accidentally films it like okay

Speaker 3: Slow at that point to let me see it again. Well, it's our it's perspective thing Like it might look slower than it is because you know, it's covering a lot of distance

Speaker 1: It looks like Terminator 2 really that's kind of like

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm It's hard to because like we're probably looking at cell phone footage and cell phone footage is still not that good So bizarre they keep making it better and better, but it gets worse and worse the photos do First of all like drones. I have not seen one good cell phone drone video So all that argument about like a few of those real where the fucking videos everyone's got a phone those Those arguments are now out the window because we know the drones are real, right?

Speaker 1: So we don't what here's the result for that Kinzhal missile thing like It just starts talking about it Oh the type of missile that they're saying that that was that was a real video. It's in theory would be everywhere Yeah, it would be everywhere. What do you mean? There would be a bunch more results saying like look at this crazy video of this missile going off

Speaker 3: Oh, I see I see not so that's only there's only one video No other reports of that that bomb

Speaker 1: Look at the account that posted it and start looking at some of the other shit. They posted

Speaker 3: it's a little what is oh it's a shit poster what was that one though that did blow up was it in Iran or in Syria recently where they hit some ammo depot the Israelis did and it looked crazy and that was a real one well yeah you remember that one was it I think you're right I think you're right that's how I can oh so scary you watch the the amount of explosion when it hits You're like Jesus Check this out. Oh, this is a different one, but this is another one. That's crazy This is an ammunition Depot building that blows up, but watch this you're lying Bro, how fucking scary is that so play that back again? That's real mm-hmm watch this Yeah, that's what it looks like when one of them things blows up. Yeah, that's crazy

Speaker 4: Could a Kevlar thing help you from that a Kevlar no no no no no

Speaker 3: Everyone's getting smushed especially if you're close the buildings are getting

Speaker 4: Eliminated and what can you hide behind like what type of thing would you do there? There's nothing you're not gonna do anything

Speaker 3: You're gonna get vaporized, but yes, it's only about how much distance you are from that blast. Here's one, too Yeah, this is the one the aerial is Siri. That's right the Syrian army one check this out See if you can do it from the beginning. It's fucking bananas. Dude. Watch this Look at this. Oh

Speaker 4: This just happened

Speaker 3: I'm weeks ago. Maybe three weeks ago. It says

Speaker 4: Fuck look at that and that was in Syria. Mm-hmm. What did they do wrong?

Speaker 3: We just frayed that was so funny. Oh, yeah, I don't know If you really want to pay attention you have to go down multiple rabbit holes, okay But you know Assad was just removed as the dictator of Syria Okay, what's that Jamie? I thought you did. Um, he did get removed, right and Is he dead or is he because there was reports that he was in a plane the plane was shot out of the sky But then there was reports that he landed in Russia So I don't even know what's true Did did he get a shot out of the sky or was that that was like a story that was in the news

Speaker 1: It's not saying he's dead when I Google his name

Speaker 3: Are the stories still up that says his plane got shot out of the sky because I remember They there were stories that said his plane got shot out of the sky And then there was some Twitter story saying that he was that he landed in Russia I was like what is going on with this? but they wanted a regime change and They got it

Speaker 4: How hard was it for him to get?

Speaker 3: You know, that's the problem if you want to go down this rabbit hole and have a conversation like Dave Smith about it He knows yeah, okay. He'll take you down a rabbit. He's an interesting guy, huh? He knows a lot. He's very smart Very very smart. He knows a lot. He knows a lot and he like legitimately knows lies not bullshitting about what he knows

Speaker 6: Yeah

Speaker 3: and that's why he gets these these guys that get cocky and they want to have caught like Chris Cuomo want to have a Debate with him and he just trounces him. Yeah, he knows what he's talking about. He's and he's not lying, right the difference between a guy like like any of these CNN type media darling types who pushed the fucking COVID narrative and push every mainstream narrative those guys there's that's a very specific kind of mindset it's a a bullshitter's mindset and those guys all melt in front of actual conversations with people like Dave Smith who know what they're talking about are not Ideologically captured yeah, because there's certain things you just can't argue you can't argue that it's a good idea To do certain things and if you have not made that conclusion in your mind You're still thinking like you're employed at CNN. You're never gonna beat a guy like Dave Smith in a conversation You because he's not gonna argue with you if you're right if you're right. He's gonna agree with you He seems to lock in these people that are they're doing a totally different thing Reuters reports Assad may have died in plane crash later removes report. Well, they got the call

Speaker 1: So he escaped I guess but well, yeah So there they got the regime is gone and down and he I've seen no more updates other than this that I don't know

Speaker 4: Do you believe that we still can get real news information Joe?

Speaker 3: Not for me Speaking of which I have to correct something because there was a conversation that I had with Janice Pappas and Krista Stefano we were talking about John Jones I'd heard a rumor that John Jones wanted 30 million dollars to fight Tom Aspinall And I did hear that rumor, and I did hear that the UFC Said yes, but it is not true So Dana contacted me said that rumors bullshit, so I felt obligated to tell everybody that was that was a fake rumor I don't even remember who took because we did that podcast unfortunately we did that podcast two weeks ago

Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember who told me that what do you think the amount is that John Jones would fight him for?

Speaker 3: Do you think it's an amount? Well, apparently John is thinking about retiring. Yeah, and he should I mean he's going to have to someday He should I'm not saying he should retire. I'm saying he should think about it. Give the man all the time He wants he can fight whenever he wants to fight. That's John Jones He's the goat so leave him alone if he decides one day to come back and he comes back and he wants to fight Tom Aspinall for the heavyweight title the question is like How long are you allowed to hold on to the title before they start having that conversation? Now he just knocked out Stipe Miocic, so give the man months. Give the man five or six months, just leave him the fuck alone. But at a certain point in time, you have to decide who the heavyweight champion is. And if Tom is the interim heavyweight champion and John decides he doesn't want to fight anymore, he could do that. And he could do that also and then come back in a year and fight for the title. He could do that. He could do whatever he wants. But he might decide, you know what, had an unbelievable career, never lost, except the disqualification lost to a rule that has since been reversed. He's the GOAT. He retires, he's got plenty of money, he's got an opportunity to do some acting.

Speaker 4: Yeah. He's an interesting character to me because he seems like, he seems unique, kind of.

Speaker 3: Oh, he's very unique, yeah.

Speaker 4: Like, he seems hard to pinpoint, kind of. They make any sense or no?

Speaker 3: No, but that doesn't ever stop me from conversations with you.

Speaker 4: Thanks, dude.

Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 5: I don't require you to make sense. Yeah, he just sings you neat. That would be so boring.

Speaker 3: Imagine if I were, listen, Theo, I really love you. I love talking to you, but you gotta make sense. Imagine that would ruin our whole relationship. That's true. That would be the most ridiculous requirement. Like, you know what Joe said to me? People go, what? That is so fucked up. Why would he say that?

Speaker 5: God, give me one of those gay steaks, huh? Those things are 30 bucks more.

Speaker 3: God damn. It comes out, they fucking pull it out of my... You telling me queer shoulders, $9 more per pound. They serve it in a high heel shoe. The waiter takes it out of the shoe, plates it.

Speaker 4: The waiter just kind of scoops it onto your tongue.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I call it a juicy Santana.

Speaker 4: But they're gonna they're gonna start it's gonna start happening. They're gonna start getting these LGBTQ meats

Speaker 3: They're gonna start getting what's the D you put a D in there? They keep another stuff so new what's yeah, they always add ones But the one that pisses me off the most they add the a that's asexual. Hey stay out of it This is not you. Why are you in there? Yeah, it's like the it's the Electoral College thing that I was talking about right as they gathered up this we get enough of like Fucking Springfield, Ohio. Come on in. Come on in. We could use your vote Then just pile it all up Do you think it's a good idea to get rid of the Electoral College? Do you think it should be one person one vote?

Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of do because I think It just there's no way that it's Like a skew it all then you know I feel like it's one person one vote. That's it right You know I just worry about still like how many extra votes They had the one time you know if that was ever figured out or not nobody figured it out Which seems crazy, but this theories. I just wonder once the our voting gets compromised. It's a rat There's theories, but the theories suck the numbers too big

Speaker 3: to me Fifteen millions too many people you look at the like the graph of how many people voted, you know for 2012 2016 and then there's 2020 yeah, it's bananas people showed up and then there's 24 goes back to normal again And 24 is probably the most consequential election of our lifetime where people felt more nervous Like if these motherfuckers get in charge one more time, like we could get like literally invaded by terrorists We could lose all of our rights to say things on the Internet. They could I mean they were talking about Cracking down on hate speech online like that free speech is not hate speech that Tim Walz guy was actually saying that hate speech Free speech does not include hate speech What are you but by whose fucking definition yours a guy who thinks tampons should be in the boys room? Yeah, like when Trump started calling him tampon Tim. I was like one of the best of all his names That's my all-time favorite it didn't get used that much because he only had it for a couple of months because the guy went away As soon as the election was over, but tampon Tim's the best. Yeah, I think

Speaker 4: I'm amazed how quickly after the election everything just felt like

Speaker 3: Dude people in New York Ari was talking about it said people in New York even though they didn't win like their guy didn't win They're happy. They didn't win. There's like a marked feeling of relaxation like Because people in New York are realizing your fucking city is under attack

Speaker 4: And now it's 18 bucks to drive in and out of it is nine dollars under attack. No, I mean like

Speaker 3: Invaders, but there's that too, but there's also your rights are under attack. You're being propagandized You're getting your finances drained. They're sucking money out of you and not providing you good service You have terrible leadership. You have corrupt leadership And then when they saw Bill de Blasio, and I think they thought it was going to be better with Eric Adams and this Cathy Holter ladies out of her fucking mind. You're watching these lunatics run that state and they're running it into the fucking ground and people have to wake up before the thing hits the rocks.

Speaker 4: Do you think we'll start to separate into different countries and states eventually? Like or do you think new things like that will start to happen? Do you think we'll figure everything out?

Speaker 3: Well, we are different countries. The United States of America, but we're like Europe really like New York is so much different than Idaho Yeah, you know, Iowa is so much different than Florida, you know I mean we all speak the same language, but how much different is Miami to Portland? I mean they might as well be in another fucking country. Yeah, you might you should have a passport to go to Miami Yeah, you should check your papers You just went to Cancun To go to Eastern, Washington Yes, but it's like We're a bunch of different spots and that's one of things that makes it cool is that you can move to a new spot But like you were saying earlier like you could move to a new spot for now Like we moved we moved you moved to Nashville. I moved to Texas. We moved because we didn't like the spot We're at we found a spot. It was like This is better. Like this is more relaxing. I feel better is but if you are under under one universal control and that federal control controls all of the social issues, all of the contentious issues about whatever it is, whether it's Second Amendment, First Amendment, abortion, immigration, whatever. If you have like central control then you stifle the debate about what's best for the population because when the people get into control they enforce that and then they penalize the people that don't Agree with them, and they make it like real obvious that you step out of line They're gonna come get you and they're gonna arrest you just like they're doing in the UK While they're arresting people that are making Facebook post you bet your fucking ass There's a lot of people that want to post things on Facebook, and they don't yeah Cuz they don't want to go to jail, and that's not good. It's that's not good. That's the problem with centralized control

Speaker 4: Yeah, I just saw a thing where they oh yeah, well that seems like the scariest thing because it's like well How do you think that people here are like people there or that the beliefs here are like the beliefs there? That's why I wish we almost had like places where it's like, okay If this is how you believe then this is a place for you, right? And if this is how you believe then this is a place for you Cuz I think if we have you know, I don't think it up that many places you need probably 10 or 11 places

Speaker 3: Well, but then you get the problem of people coming into a place and deciding that they want to put their own Beliefs on this place and change the place Yeah, that's where things get real weird and you're seeing that with you know a lot of countries that are getting a lot of Islamic immigrants and they want to enforce Sharia law and they want to do it in their neighborhoods do it in their communities and What is that thing is this bullshit because I was there was some some patrol group of Muslims in New York That were driving around in cars and they were dressed like cops and I saw that I was like, is this rage bait? Is this clickbait? Like what? What is this? What is this? I'm saying this can't be real So it was these guys dressed up like cops that had cars that looked like cop cars. It says something about like

Speaker 4: Like could even a music video or something. It could be

Speaker 1: Good be

Speaker 3: Muslim community patrols Protecting u.s. Mosques. So are they just security guards that are around mosques? Is that what it is? And people are blowing this up

Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is. Okay, so to Election count the numbers are pretty similar from 2020 to 2024 really everything now that they have everything You have a hundred and fifty five million votes for this. Can we see it the graph? Why didn't I could I didn't see it on the graph?

Speaker 3: See, but the thing was the graph was that there was 15 million

Speaker 1: I know the graphs were made before the election the counts were all done. Hmm, right, but wouldn't that mean oh

Speaker 3: Oh, so now the numbers are high again?

Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, California didn't finish counting until like a week ago or something like that. And they weren't having it for a long time. Are you serious? I don't know the actual date, but it was a long time.

Speaker 3: Trump was just talking about it, that California hasn't finished counting yet. Bro, that's the worst. How could you take so long to count? Here's the best part. In every close race, after prolonged counting for long periods of time, Democrats won. The ones where they're, what are the odds? The ones where you see how many counties shifted red, that's the same thing. It's like people are getting fed up with it. They're getting tired. They're sick. They're sick of bullshit. So hey, dude, we're gonna do my podcast and we're gonna do your podcast. So this is what we're gonna do. So we will, right now, we'll stop, we'll take a piss, and then people that wanna follow this conversation, go to Theo Vaughn's podcast. And it'll be this from now on.

Speaker 4: Thank you, Joe, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna have fun tonight, too. Yep. I'm excited. Oh, yeah

Speaker 4: We're coming to the club Joe DeRosa's here. Oh, we got to let Shane out of that sauna. No, he's out. Oh, yes

Speaker 3: Okay, it's a door He's a big boy No, I'm excited to see him it'd be fun. Thank you. All right, we'll be right back folks on Theo show You