QAnon Shaman on Jan. 6, Trump and Epstein Doubts (Full Transcript)

Jacob Chansley says he no longer supports Trump, cites Epstein-list secrecy, and claims no regrets about Jan. 6 despite prison and a pardon.
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[00:00:00] Speaker 1: This is Jacob Chansley, better known as the QAnon Shaman. He became known around the world after the January 6th attack. There he is. That's the QAnon Shaman. How are you doing? Doing alright. How about yourself? Ahead of the five year anniversary of the Capitol attack, I went to Phoenix to see what he's up to now. Are you still a Trump supporter? No.

[00:00:28] Speaker 2: I thought you knew that. Why not? The man alone refusing to release the Epstein client list was enough for me and I think a lot of other people to be like, okay, this is bulls**t.

[00:00:41] Speaker 1: Jake pled guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding and was sentenced to 41 months in prison. He was later pardoned by Trump. Looking back on Jan 6th now, how do you feel? Do you have any regrets? Do you regret that you went?

[00:00:56] Speaker 2: Not at all.

[00:00:58] Speaker 1: Even though you had prison and all that stuff?

[00:01:01] Speaker 2: Even though I had prison and all that stuff. No regrets. I don't live with regret.

[00:01:05] Speaker 1: Did you ever identify as the QAnon Shaman? Never. Not once.

[00:01:11] Speaker 2: But you were a Q follower? Well, kind of. I had a sign that I carried around with me for a little while that said Q sent me, but that was because of the meme Q sent me.

[00:01:21] Speaker 1: A key part of QAnon's conspiracy theories are claims of a child-abusing cabal of elites. Now like many of its followers who are loyal to Trump, Jake has stopped supporting the president because of his initial resistance to releasing information about Epstein, a convicted sex offender. One thing that QAnon has done, right, is to like insert so much confusion and disinformation about like who was actually involved with Epstein that then it's just now impossible to know what the truth is.

[00:01:50] Speaker 2: The idea here is anybody can have a story, anybody can have a theory, but the water is so convoluted that the truth will never be officially established.

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An interviewer visits Jacob Chansley, known as the “QAnon Shaman,” ahead of the fifth anniversary of Jan. 6. Chansley says he is no longer a Trump supporter, citing Trump’s refusal to release the Epstein client list as a breaking point. Despite pleading guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding, serving prison time, and later being pardoned by Trump, he says he has no regrets about attending Jan. 6. He also rejects identifying as the “QAnon Shaman,” saying he only loosely engaged with QAnon and carried a “Q sent me” sign as a meme reference. The discussion touches on how QAnon-related narratives have fueled confusion and disinformation around Epstein, making truth difficult to establish.
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Interview with Jacob Chansley on Jan. 6, Trump, and QAnon
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Neutral: The tone is primarily explanatory and investigative, with matter-of-fact questions about regret, political support, and conspiracy narratives. Chansley expresses disillusionment with Trump and steadfastness about Jan. 6, but the overall exchange remains informational rather than overtly emotional.
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